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Saying that this is due to de-regulation is rather ignorant. I mean regulations have been increasing since the advent of this country so that’s nonsense.
David Eyton , BP Gulf Operations bigshot, has been busy analysing ClimateGate emails for the Muir Russell Climategate whitewash.
The fact that BP has heavily funded climate research and is always seeking to improve relations with governments, that Eyton is avowedly in support of the climate scientists, aside, he has decidely kept a VERY LOW PROFILE over the oil leak, on his watch.
but he did a right good job on analysing ClimateGate emails, for sure !
You can’t say BP is deregulated. Part of the reason the drilled in the water was due to regulations and prohibition on drilling on land.
Also BP is a corporation meaning it is already prop by the state with legislation and corporate tax etc…which of course privatizes profit and socializes loses. As you can see BP exec aren’t personally invested in this clean up because the “corporation” is taking care of the cost.
Hey Corey. While I think its a good thing that you are drawing attention to the issue of respecting the plannet beyond monetary proffit, I can’t help thinking you’re using BP as a scape-goat here. The fact is simple – the real question that we should be asking is: what the hell do we expect, drilling up oil from the bottom of the sea and shipping it around the globe to burn in our homes and cars? To blame an organization or a lack of media couverage is really just avoiding responsibility.
@wholethinker russians are no more or less self-destructive than average idiot. the point of my comment was that capitalism vel free market and its invisible hand of competition (as opposed to communist central command) somehow magically working towards the greatest good of mankind is a myth.
Do you want to have tranquility? … Would you like to live as a sage does? You can, and you can achieve this observe the mind and then try to break the chain of retaliatory justice.
vs.
“Don’t ever shop at BP again. You ever see a BP, don’t you ever buy gas there. This is an evil corporation… There’s no way to stop it. But at least in this case, there is a concrete action that you can take.”
“This is our HOME… I think there is something very alarming when corporate interests can really take over what is OBVIOUSLY a public interests, and I guess with a kind of immunity.”
Never lose your innocence. You can never get it back. Trust me on that one.
@acromel compared to this Exxon Valdes is a pimple… being a curious mind i looked up Horizon “event” and oils spills on wikipedia. looks like they ain’t gonna stop it in couple of months. and flow may be orders of magnitude greater than the one in 1979… anyway. crying over spilt milk…
quit babbling [ i know ure trying or even are logical ] …. logic doesnt work …. BP and us politicians need a serious DOSE of al quaeda …. im sick and tired of all this TALK … its just TALK …. and what is happening is the entire ocean is being messed up …. and the TALK and BABBLING just goes on …. us WENT AFTER AL QUAEDA when they messed up … i think the reverse gear needs to be applied here …. and yes its legitimate
@jogayot
“of course if soviet russia ran on capitalism chernobyl would never happen”
You under-estimate Russians: they can make disasters with any regime.
@jogayot I thought I should be vaguely diplomatic. :o)
The Americans don’t like criticism and words like `corrupt’ wouldn’t be well received – no matter how appropriate ;o)
Sadly this is partly due to their free-market (as they call it) economic model. Their companies must make short-term profit at all costs – and this disaster is one of those costs. Exxon Valdez all over again.
Obama’s mentioned this stuff but he’s just considered to be a Liberal=socialist=communist=evil. Sigh.
@acromel “incompetent regulation” – the delicacy of the new-new-newspeak… i’d rather put it outright: a bribe…
root cause? i’m pessimistic… it’s not being talked about, it never will, and even if talking about it won’t change the nature of the beast. there will always be a new way a disaster can creep in, there will always be a need for yet another revolution.
Good points. When you have time take a look at Gerry Spence and his book “Give Me Liberty” Spence wrestles with “how we can graft a conscience on corporations”
People only have that as a bargaining chip to draw attention to the issue. Most poor schmucks are so railroaded that just living day to day is a chore and they don’t have time to raise their heads above the grind stone to do anything and the big corporations know this. The larger problem is our infrastructure we have grown too big and this is due to what oil allows us to do, if suddenly we had no more oil it would be catastrophic given our dependence and they way our world is set up.
Name me one oil company that isn’t evil! I think BP is just responding to consumer demand. Anyone who uses a car or oil in any way is partially to blame for their attitude towards this planet. We have been living like kings, walking down streets paved with gold. What happens when we have to give that back? Too many people with too many demands.
@jogayot The reaction is understandable but, as Obama has made clear, the cause is closer to to incompetent regulation – with a clear conflict of interest between the oil industry and the regulators. It’s not even clear which company is at fault yet – although BP is nonetheless responsible.
Plus the environmentally illiterate `drilll baby drill’ rhetoric does nothing to help. To reduce all of this to `BP is evil’ is just petulant. The solution is to attack the root cause and not the symptom.
Saying that this is due to de-regulation is rather ignorant. I mean regulations have been increasing since the advent of this country so that’s nonsense.
David Eyton , BP Gulf Operations bigshot, has been busy analysing ClimateGate emails for the Muir Russell Climategate whitewash.
The fact that BP has heavily funded climate research and is always seeking to improve relations with governments, that Eyton is avowedly in support of the climate scientists, aside, he has decidely kept a VERY LOW PROFILE over the oil leak, on his watch.
but he did a right good job on analysing ClimateGate emails, for sure !
You can’t say BP is deregulated. Part of the reason the drilled in the water was due to regulations and prohibition on drilling on land.
Also BP is a corporation meaning it is already prop by the state with legislation and corporate tax etc…which of course privatizes profit and socializes loses. As you can see BP exec aren’t personally invested in this clean up because the “corporation” is taking care of the cost.
To paraphrase Oscar Wilde. People today know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
hey! great video! (and I don’t usually say that to you! :-P) I’m glad at least *some* people are saying things like this!
Hey Corey. While I think its a good thing that you are drawing attention to the issue of respecting the plannet beyond monetary proffit, I can’t help thinking you’re using BP as a scape-goat here. The fact is simple – the real question that we should be asking is: what the hell do we expect, drilling up oil from the bottom of the sea and shipping it around the globe to burn in our homes and cars? To blame an organization or a lack of media couverage is really just avoiding responsibility.
@wholethinker russians are no more or less self-destructive than average idiot. the point of my comment was that capitalism vel free market and its invisible hand of competition (as opposed to communist central command) somehow magically working towards the greatest good of mankind is a myth.
@jogayot I was born there. Russians are self-distractive, even more than Americans.
Do you want to have tranquility? … Would you like to live as a sage does? You can, and you can achieve this observe the mind and then try to break the chain of retaliatory justice.
vs.
“Don’t ever shop at BP again. You ever see a BP, don’t you ever buy gas there. This is an evil corporation… There’s no way to stop it. But at least in this case, there is a concrete action that you can take.”
Yes, there is concrete action we can take.
Physician, heal thyself.
That’s adorable.
“This is our HOME… I think there is something very alarming when corporate interests can really take over what is OBVIOUSLY a public interests, and I guess with a kind of immunity.”
Never lose your innocence. You can never get it back. Trust me on that one.
@videosouthafrica So what are you advocating? Ecoterrorism? And you think that will actually achieve something?
@wholethinker i hope you are joking… otherwise: “swoosh”… it’s the sound of irony speeding past you.
@acromel compared to this Exxon Valdes is a pimple… being a curious mind i looked up Horizon “event” and oils spills on wikipedia. looks like they ain’t gonna stop it in couple of months. and flow may be orders of magnitude greater than the one in 1979… anyway. crying over spilt milk…
Short BP.
quit babbling [ i know ure trying or even are logical ] …. logic doesnt work …. BP and us politicians need a serious DOSE of al quaeda …. im sick and tired of all this TALK … its just TALK …. and what is happening is the entire ocean is being messed up …. and the TALK and BABBLING just goes on …. us WENT AFTER AL QUAEDA when they messed up … i think the reverse gear needs to be applied here …. and yes its legitimate
@jogayot
“of course if soviet russia ran on capitalism chernobyl would never happen”
You under-estimate Russians: they can make disasters with any regime.
@jogayot I thought I should be vaguely diplomatic. :o)
The Americans don’t like criticism and words like `corrupt’ wouldn’t be well received – no matter how appropriate ;o)
Sadly this is partly due to their free-market (as they call it) economic model. Their companies must make short-term profit at all costs – and this disaster is one of those costs. Exxon Valdez all over again.
Obama’s mentioned this stuff but he’s just considered to be a Liberal=socialist=communist=evil. Sigh.
@acromel “incompetent regulation” – the delicacy of the new-new-newspeak… i’d rather put it outright: a bribe…
root cause? i’m pessimistic… it’s not being talked about, it never will, and even if talking about it won’t change the nature of the beast. there will always be a new way a disaster can creep in, there will always be a need for yet another revolution.
Good points. When you have time take a look at Gerry Spence and his book “Give Me Liberty” Spence wrestles with “how we can graft a conscience on corporations”
People only have that as a bargaining chip to draw attention to the issue. Most poor schmucks are so railroaded that just living day to day is a chore and they don’t have time to raise their heads above the grind stone to do anything and the big corporations know this. The larger problem is our infrastructure we have grown too big and this is due to what oil allows us to do, if suddenly we had no more oil it would be catastrophic given our dependence and they way our world is set up.
@EdwardWhelanPiano Fully agreed: /watch?v=_i_JravqWSk
Name me one oil company that isn’t evil! I think BP is just responding to consumer demand. Anyone who uses a car or oil in any way is partially to blame for their attitude towards this planet. We have been living like kings, walking down streets paved with gold. What happens when we have to give that back? Too many people with too many demands.
I’m really starting to hate driving a car more and more…
@jogayot The reaction is understandable but, as Obama has made clear, the cause is closer to to incompetent regulation – with a clear conflict of interest between the oil industry and the regulators. It’s not even clear which company is at fault yet – although BP is nonetheless responsible.
Plus the environmentally illiterate `drilll baby drill’ rhetoric does nothing to help. To reduce all of this to `BP is evil’ is just petulant. The solution is to attack the root cause and not the symptom.
It’s the environment, stupid.